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  Pass Labs:What to expect fm XA60.5 to XA100.5
Hi Guys,

Some of you may know that I have some buzz/hum issue in one of newly received XA60.5 mono blocks. The dealer diagnosed the problem and determined the transformer needs replacing. Since the XA60.5 is only few days old so I am given the chance to get a replacement set or I could top up the price difference to get the X350.5 or XA100.5s when my dealer gets their stocks in the next 3-4 weeks time.

Kudos to Pass Labs and the dealer's service for all the patience and after sales services...certainly very much appreciated and glad I go for Pass Labs.

As such, I have 3-4 weeks to listen to the current XA60.5 in my system while waiting for the stocks to arrive and make the final decision on the swap/upgrade.
Elmerpoh  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

07-11-10
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07-11-10   Some information: speaker : von schweikert unifiel ...   Elmerpoh

07-11-10   This is a little off topic, but i too am currently listening ...   Kenl

07-11-10   Hi kenl, yes,the reviews are pretty much true, the pass lab ...   Elmerpoh

07-12-10   With your speakers i would not expect much of a difference g ...   Pubul57

07-12-10   Are you running balanced or single ended from the bel canto ...   Tvad

07-12-10   Though i did not say it before, i should have added that imh ...   Pubul57

07-12-10   I went from the xa100.5 to the xa160.5. my speakers are a v ...   Peterayer

07-12-10   Does the meter on the xa60.5 bump around alot? if it moves o ...   Rtn1

07-12-10   Elmerpoh, how far from the speakers do you sit? is this the ...   Tvad

07-12-10   Hi guys, thank you for all the inputs. hi paubl, as my sp ...   Elmerpoh

07-12-10   i don't believe that's measuring decibels. take some measur ...   Tvad

07-12-10   Elmerpoh, given your 91db and 4 ohm min impedance and the f ...   Peterayer

07-13-10   Elmerpoh, disregard the suggestion to measure your listening ...   Tvad

07-13-10   Tvad, could you please elaborate on your last post? you se ...   Peterayer

07-13-10   "i was always told all speakers like wattages, the high ...   Pubul57

07-13-10   hi pubul, my main dilemma is: given everything the same(i. ...   Elmerpoh

07-13-10   Some pass x.5 owners will have to pipe in here, but for some ...   Pubul57

07-13-10   If i understand your situation correctly you will have the o ...   Onhwy61

07-13-10   I own a xa100.5 with wp sasha. before buying tha xa100.5, i ...   Jpspock

07-13-10   I would expect the xa-100.5 to be "better" than th ...   Pubul57

07-13-10   hi onhwy/pubul, my local dealer unfortunately does not hav ...   Elmerpoh

07-14-10   The latest tas said the sasha is not an easy speaker to driv ...   Keithr

07-14-10   Yup, i would think xa100.5 or higher, but those 100s are con ...   Pubul57

07-14-10   Hi elmeroth, i listened the xa60 and 100.5 the same day on ...   Jpspock

07-14-10   The plot thickens...   Pubul57

07-14-10   Elmerpoh, i must have misunderstood you. i thought from yo ...   Peterayer

07-14-10   Peter, is it your feeling also that the xa60s is more than e ...   Pubul57

07-14-10: Jylee
A little late to the discussion here. I use XA-30.5 to drive my speakers with 91dB/w sensitivity and presents 4 Ohm load under 1KHz. I listen to music fairly loud, louder than most of my friends. Even that loud level is only around 80dB at the listening position - average. The musical peaks can reach 90dB and up. As to how the dB figures translate to the real world, at 80dB it is somewhat difficult to carry out conversation without significantly raising the voice. At 90dB you would be shouting to each other and barely hear them. Most my friends listen at 65-75dB on average. I assume that's the same for vast majority of audiophiles.

What that means is most people don't _need_ that much power in reality, unless the speakers are extremely inefficient or difficult to drive. But it's like owning a car. Most people don't need 500HP engine but we all want to.

Nelson Pass wrote about what it really means for an amp to transition from class A bias to class A/B bias. That's when the needle starts to move for Pass amps. The needle moving past the stationary position is not an indicator of the amp running out of capacity. The maximum power for XA-.5 amps are published elsewhere, and they are significantly higher than what the model number suggests. The maximum power is of course delivered in class A/B mode. Then the question is will someone be able to discern the "quality" of power delivered in class A mode vs class A/B mode of the same amp. That's a good question, but it's of no concern for me any more. The needle on the face plate jumping up and down was maybe a little bit entertaining in the beginning, for example during the canon fire of Tchaikovsky's 1812. But I came to the conclusion that my amp has plenty of power for me, and nothing good will come out with worrying about the class A vs A/B currents and needle movements. That way you tend to enjoy the music more.

Jylee  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


07-14-10   Pubul57, i think the xa60.5 should have enough power for el ...   Peterayer

07-14-10   I bought a pair of xa160.5's based on a combination of audit ...   Auxetophone

07-14-10   The comment from pass regarding the characteristic of the xa ...   Tvad

07-15-10   hi peter, i am unable to have any head to head hearing of t ...   Elmerpoh

07-15-10   A couple thought to consider, since you have a few weeks bef ...   Auxetophone

07-15-10   If i were you i would contact pass labs directly and talk t ...   Onhwy61

07-15-10   an excellent point, and an equally excellent alternative.   Tvad

07-15-10   if the amp is going back to pass for repair anyway, perhaps ...   Peterayer

07-16-10   Excellent and very valid points guys, i will need to have a ...   Elmerpoh

07-16-10   Good luck!   Pubul57

09-20-10   Elmerpoh, what did you decide to do? can you update us? t ...   Peterayer

09-23-10   Hi peter, thanks for checking back. can you believe i am s ...   Elmerpoh

10-21-10   Hey guys, just an update, finally my long wait for the xa10 ...   Elmerpoh

10-21-10   Congratulations!! great amps with almost any speaker.   Pubul57

07-30-11   I am curious as to which amp you chose. assuming that your ...   7p62mm

07-30-11   Elmerpoh, you never gave your impressions of the new amps. ...   Peterayer

07-30-11   My speakers are 90 db efficiency. my amplifier provides 400+ ...   Rtn1

07-30-11   I owned the 350.5 and the 250.5 at the same time, and for me ...   Seabreeze

07-31-11   My current amp is an aleph 60w/ch. it has plenty of power f ...   7p62mm

08-01-11   7p62mm: "a couple of advantages that the xa60.5 has ove ...   Pubul57

08-01-11   Hi guys, apologies for the late update, was tied up and sel ...   Elmerpoh

08-02-11   "always craving for even more resolution, more speed an ...   Rtn1

08-02-11   "overall, the music picture portrayed by the 100.5 is t ...   Seabreeze

08-02-11   I enjoyed the xa100.5 very much until i bought a new pair of ...   Peterayer

08-02-11   I would expect all those benefits when you move from an unde ...   Pubul57

08-03-11   Good point pubul57. i've never tried my bigger xa.5 amps wi ...   Peterayer

08-03-11   I still believe the monoblock argument about separation, tho ...   Pubul57

08-03-11   Pubul57, i too have found that smaller wattage amps will ge ...   Onemug

08-03-11   The man is on of the greats, and owning most any amp he has ...   Pubul57

08-04-11   Nice comments pubul57 and onemug. i believe you need the app ...   Charles1dad

08-04-11   I agree with onemug. somehow, the xa200.5 sounds sweet, deli ...   Rtn1

08-04-11   Sounds like there may be no sonic price to be paid as you mo ...   Pubul57

11-03-11   In terms of the more power means more complex circuit with m ...   Lightminer

11-03-11   Light, maggies are generally not a bad load for a good amp l ...   Magfan

11-03-11   Yeah - spectron - that is what i meant when i said spectral ...   Lightminer

11-04-11   "are the 3.7s fused?" yes, 5 amp mid and 2 1/2 rib ...   Hasse

11-04-11   Light: 'more power means more complex circuit' is not neces ...   Magfan

10-25-12   Has anyone tried either the xa60.5 or the xa100.5 with the v ...   Nicks

10-25-12   Nicks, i use a pair of xa-100.5s with my vandy 5as in a 14 ...   Dmatt200


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