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  Lightspeed Attenuator - Best Preamp Ever?
The question is a bit rhetorical. No preamp is the best ever, and much depends on system context. I am starting this thread beacuase there is a lot of info on this preamp in a Music First Audio Passive...thread, an Slagle AVC Modules...thread and wanted to be sure that information on this amazing product did not get lost in those threads.

I suspect that many folks may give this preamp a try at $450, direct from Australia, so I thought it would be good for current owners and future owners to have a place to describe their experience with this preamp.

It is a passive preamp that uses light LEDs, rather than mechanical contacts, to alter resistance and thereby attenuation of the source signal. It has been extremely hot in the DIY community, since the maker of this preamp provided gernerously provided information on how to make one. The trick is that while there are few parts, getting it done right, the matching of the parts is time consuming and tricky, and to boot, most of use would solder our fingers together if we tried. At $450, don't bother. It is cased in a small chassis that is fully shielded alloy, it gets it's RF sink earth via the interconnects. Vibration doesn't come into it as there is nothing to get vibrated as it's passive, even the active led's are immune as they are gas element, no filaments. The feet I attach are soft silicon/sorbethane compound anyway just in case.

This is not audio jewelry with bling, but solidly made and there is little room (if any) for audionervosa or tweaking.

So is this the best preamp ever? It might be if you have a single source (though you could use a switch box), your source is 2v or higher, your IC from pre-amp to amp is less than 2m to keep capaitance low, your amp is 5kohm input or higher (most any tube amp), and your amp is relatively sensitive (1v input sensitivity or lower v would be just right). In other words, within a passive friendly system (you do have to give this some thought), this is the finest passive preamp I have ever heard, and I have has many ranging form resistor-based to TVCs and AVCs.

In my system, with my equipment, I think it is the best I have heard passive or active, but I lean towards prefering preamp neutrality and transparency, without loosing musicality, dynamics, or the handling of low bass and highs.

If you own one, what are your impressions versus anything you have heard?

Is it the best ever? I suspect for some it may be, and to say that for a $450 product makes it stupidgood.
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06-12-10
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09-04-10   Robtn, obviously i could not agree with you more. it was int ...   Pubul57

09-04-10   I meant to say not very dimensional as recorded.   Pubul57

09-05-10   Yes, the sound stage and imaging manipulation that active co ...   Clio09

09-05-10   this is not meant to be to be an attack on the lightspeed o ...   Darkmoebius

09-06-10: Pubul57
I enjoyed reading that, well said, and certainly the issue of what gear will connect the listener to the music is as varied as there are people. As far as soundstaging is concerned, what I do notice with the LSA is that the apparent soundstage seems to change quite a bit from recording to recording, which I suspect is a good sign that the LSA is making and effort to "get out of the way" between source and amp. I also notice, as Clio9 suggested, that instruments do not seem to be oversized or stretched as often occurred with Patricia Barber's piano with some other very fine preamps I have owned. I don't know if you took 10 audiophiles and had them compare the LSA to, let's say, the ARC Ref5, how many would choose one over the other in blind listening, and both can certainly make for an excellent sounding system. But the fact that you could make the comparison tells you just how good the LSA (and other passives - I too have followed a similar path, Placette, K&K, Bent AVC, etc)are in the right system. Will prefer them to fine active preamps? Only listening will tell and I'm sure there will be those that walk out of the room with that Ref5 in tow.
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09-06-10   Darkmoebius as we all know, it is almost impossible to know ...   Georgelofi

09-06-10   Sounds like the bolero test by arthur salvatore, which also ...   Pubul57

09-09-10   great point, george! i actually did this years back with a ...   Darkmoebius

09-09-10   So it seems that true to the source (or at least to the outp ...   Pubul57

09-09-10   09-09-10: darkmoebius but, it did pose a problem playing vin ...   Georgelofi

09-09-10   it just so happened that my active stepup(+22db) amp and ph ...   Darkmoebius

09-09-10   I have used the lightspeed with both mc and mm cartridges. n ...   Clio09

09-09-10   Great sound does not have to cost a lot. great looks are nic ...   Clio09

09-09-10   Anthony, i agree. there are many reasons to own a full-featu ...   Pubul57

09-09-10   what was the output of your low mc's? (maybe i screwed some ...   Darkmoebius

09-09-10   dynavector 20xl low output version rated 0.25mv. however, m ...   Clio09

09-09-10   that's exactly why i'll only have tubes in the amp and nowh ...   Clio09

09-09-10   The 0.25mv 103d into my phono pre+active stepup's 64db gain ...   Georgelofi

09-09-10   the extra +4db gain that you have over my phono leads to ~3 ...   Darkmoebius

09-10-10   Pub- thank you for referencing some jazz. yes, good-ol' cann ...   Robtn

09-11-10   Anthony, if i read ralph right, "not to mention we have ...   Pubul57

09-11-10   There are a number of dacs on the market with 1v or greater ...   Catastrofe

09-11-10   Is it the case that one a digital volume control is fully op ...   Pubul57

09-11-10   Yes, if the control is wide-open, or at least above a certai ...   Catastrofe

09-11-10   I would think so, as in essence a fully open ouput with a va ...   Pubul57

09-11-10   You are right pubul57, the momment you start to lower a digi ...   Georgelofi

09-11-10   Yes the idea of an active preamp, or in the case of the trut ...   Clio09

09-15-10   From what we have learnt and heard for myself, the only way ...   Georgelofi

09-15-10   George, is it your view that the buffering used in preamps, ...   Pubul57

09-15-10   That is correct, buffers are there to drive long interconnec ...   Georgelofi

09-15-10   George, maybe you can help me figure something out. i was us ...   Clio09

09-15-10   I assume you are using the input that is full range not the ...   Georgelofi

09-16-10   George, what don't you like about that 1uf coupling cap? any ...   Clio09

09-17-10   I much prefer direct coupling, i can hear coupling caps. but ...   Georgelofi

09-22-10   George, the "passive" "active" debate se ...   Pubul57

09-22-10   Maybe you have even better amp/speaker synergy. that's where ...   Clio09

09-22-10   You are right paul, in some instances. but in our case with ...   Georgelofi

09-22-10   I think this is beyond the reach of logic, it is simply a ma ...   Pubul57

09-26-10   Publus57, the active vs. passive debate is indeed an interes ...   Agear

09-26-10   I like the idea of blind listening sessions, why are so many ...   Pubul57

09-26-10   One thing that would be nice in the lsa, and most modern pre ...   Pubul57

09-26-10   Agear hi your questions to me are answered here it's a big r ...   Georgelofi

09-26-10   Pubul57, i like the concept of blinded sessions to remove bi ...   Agear

09-26-10   Owned the ars sonum (twice:)) most recently i have owned ca ...   Pubul57

09-26-10   most of these tests as conducted today are flawed to some e ...   Clio09

09-26-10   I should have thought about that, take that over remote cotr ...   Pubul57

09-26-10   not sure what you mean. the cf-080 preamp has a gain stage ...   Clio09

09-27-10   George, for the sake of those who don't want to sift through ...   Agear

09-27-10   I should know today, but i hope to be going to rmaf. if i at ...   Clio09

09-27-10   Tony, that will be kool. dale had talked about showing with ...   Agear


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