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05-19-10
Don't need em or want em myself. they add distortion just li ... Rwwear
05-19-10
I have a spare carver c6 pre-amp that i am not using with so ... Mapman
05-19-10
Imho the anti-tone control crowd is blind to the fact that e ... Herman
05-19-10
I also have a carver c-9 sonic hologram generator, and a dbx ... Zydo
05-19-10
Zydo, equating antiquated devices like those you mentioned w ... Herman
05-19-10
Given the choice, i'd choose to have them provided the circu ... Tvad
05-19-10
My preamp allows me to have different sound levels for left ... Uru975
05-20-10
It is a fact that at low volume our ears are less sensitive ... Tgrisham
05-20-10
Old fashioned, cheap treble and bass tone controls were drop ... Samujohn
05-20-10
Mcintosh still uses them and when placed in the nuetral posi ... Theo
05-20-10
To drunk to read what's been posted, but if you want tone or ... Gslone
05-20-10
Tgrisham, "it is a fact that at low volume our ears a ... Rrog
05-20-10: Kirkus I do . . . actually a modern, high-quality tone control arrangement is something I've been working on for some time.
Herman is quite correct in the fact that high-quality equalisation is a necessity in many parts of the recording chain, and anybody that has experience with top-shelf professional equalisers can attest to the fact that equipment indeed can be designed that sacrifices nothing in transparency, detail, noise, distortion, musicality, etc. etc. in order to perform its task. But these units are also available in seemingly endless configurations, each suited to specific applications and engineers' preferences, and virtually all of them must be used skillfully and judiciously to get positive results.
The challange in a high-end audio context is to get just the right amount of adjustability in just the right ways . . . so that the desired, significant improvement can be made the vast majority of the time in just a few seconds. I've used several graphic and parametric mastering EQs in my various systems over the years, as well as a smattering of recording-console channel strip EQs, all semi-parametric in some fashion or another. From this I come to the conclusion that the "knob-count" should be 3-5, settings should be easily repeatable (especially for frequency/turnover), and work identically on both stereo channels. More than five controls starts getting really fiddly, and fewer than three . . . you might just as well have the Baxandall circuits.
I also feel that some frequency-variability is necessary . . . simple five-to-seven-band graphics (i.e. McIntosh) never seem to have the bands quite where they're needed, and using two adjacent bands together usually starts messing things up. Narrower graphics with variable-slope or "constant-Q" filters also IMO start sounding heavy-handed.
Meyer Sound used to make a simple 1U EQ called the VX-1 that was my favorite of the bunch, although it has dual-mono controls and everything's continuous (no repeatabilty). Five knobs . . . low/mid/high with variable turnovers, all constant-slope single-order (6dB/octave). It had sensible range (+6 to -12 IIRC) that precludes the need for making master gain adjustments. Kirkus (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
05-20-10
. if someone could make a transparent eq for my ref3 i'd lov ... Mitch4t
05-20-10
This is the classic study done in the 50's regarding perceiv ... Tgrisham
05-20-10
If we can put a man on the moon, we can build gear with tone ... Glenfihi
05-20-10
"i also have a carver c-9 sonic hologram generator, and ... Mapman
05-20-10
They can make tone controls that work well but they are digi ... Rwwear
05-20-10
Yes. defeatable tone controls. i say bring them back. poor r ... Mcfarland
05-20-10
Agreed that use of adjustable subs alleviate the value of o ... Mapman
05-20-10
I wopuld like to have them, but i don't think it was a consp ... Cyclonicman
05-20-10
"fer sure dude". my yamaha cx1 had them & i do mi ... Jsd52756
05-20-10
"for ten big ones they oughta be able to put one in the ... Mapman
05-20-10
Don't need them; don't want them. and i don't want to pay f ... Almarg
05-20-10
In addition to tone controls, a must is a balance control. Buconero117
05-20-10
Would really like to see tone controls make a come back..... ... Sympaticonorm
05-20-10
I want recording engineers to make recordings that don't req ... Unsound
05-20-10
This can be done well if you have a competant amp designer.i ... Fromunda
05-20-10
Fwiw, i was never able to detect distortion as a result of h ... Mapman
05-20-10
Plenty of preamp choices with tape in/out. with a tape loop ... Vicdamone
05-20-10
First tone controls obviously add color, there is devices in ... Undertow
05-20-10
i don't think there's a cable company that has that much in ... Tpreaves
05-20-10
An audiophile and tone controls should not be in the same se ... Orpheus10
05-20-10
Be honest, some audiophiles don't have the intelligence to p ... Onhwy61
05-20-10
Zydo, i had a phase linear 4000 designed by bob carver with ... Orpheus10
05-20-10
"don't need them; don't want them. and i don't want to ... Kijanki
05-20-10
The last time i recall actually using the tone controls when ... Mapman
05-20-10
Onhwy61, you hit the nail on the head. if most audiophiles h ... Carlos269
05-20-10
Carlos269- you are so right. we are lemmings into the sea! ... Tgrisham
05-20-10
If your preamp/amp has inserts, or a tape loop/monitor arran ... Coolhand
05-20-10
Carlos, why did you wait until i spent so much money on gear ... Kclone
05-21-10
If you go to a quality steak house type restaurant you'll al ... Onhwy61
05-21-10
Kclone, i understand where you are coming from. i also start ... Carlos269
05-21-10
Yes, one way to look at it is that you are at the mercy of t ... Mapman
05-21-10
It is quite apparent that all of the people who want tone co ... Orpheus10
05-21-10
Orpheus, what do you think microphone positioning does? furt ... Carlos269
05-21-10
onhwy61's analogy is excellent, and actually one that i use ... Kirkus
05-21-10
I have tone controls on my mcintosh c2300. they are complete ... Hififile
05-21-10
No tone or balance controls in my system. i do miss the bal ... Daverz
05-21-10
The posts on this thread are driving me into "coniption ... Orpheus10
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