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  Power output of tube amps compared to solid states
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how tube amp power output relates to solid state power output. I've been looking at the classifieds for tube amps and I see lots of tube amps with 50w or 60w output, but nothing close to the 250w output typical of solid state amps.

So I have no idea what type of tube amp is required for my set up, right now I'm using totem forests with a required power rating of 150w-200w at 8ohms. The bass is so powerful on these that I have the sub crossover set to 40hz.

My question is, are tube amps so efficient that 50w from a tube sounds like 150w from a solid state? Or will 50w output from a tube severely limit how loud I can play my speakers? If so, are tubes usually meant to be driving super-high efficiency speakers?

I had previously tried a tube pre-amp with a solid state power amp (both musical fidelity) and didn't like the results because the imaging suffered greatly, even though the music sounded nicer from a distance. Now I want to try a solid state pre-amp (bryston) with a tube power amp (no idea which brand to look at), but I don't know how much power output I need or if it will even be possible with my speakers. Does anyone know what I would require?
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03-07-10
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04-11-10   This particular paper is interesting, but very dated . . . a ...   Kirkus

04-11-10   Thaks shadorne, that explasins what bobby was talking about, ...   Pubul57

04-11-10   indeed, a critically damped acoustic suspension speaker doe ...   Shadorne

04-11-10   Shadorne, a long time ago i remember reading(though for the ...   Unsound

04-11-10   Hi unsound . . . it's not so much a matter of whether or not ...   Kirkus

04-11-10   Another way to think of damping is that a high damping amp & ...   Shadorne

04-11-10   i would add that outside of pro applications these kind of ...   Shadorne

04-12-10   My understanding is that a woofer's electrical damping is de ...   Audiokinesis

04-12-10   [/quote] in other words, most prosound woofers are overdampe ...   Shadorne

04-12-10   What are the virtues of a dc-coupled amplifier like the atma ...   Pubul57

04-12-10   excellent point - they also tend to have lower mechanical ma ...   Kirkus

04-12-10   Pubul57, there's no shortage of material on the web that con ...   Kirkus

04-12-10   i would also add that amplifier tight control is a good thi ...   Shadorne

04-12-10   You're precisely correct shadorne . . . and that's why in th ...   Kirkus

04-12-10   Pubul57, kirkus has been right on all his points but one- i' ...   Atmasphere

04-12-10   Kirkus wrote: "the problem with increasing the amplifi ...   Audiokinesis

04-12-10   Duke, which of your speaker designs is best for a room 11x18 ...   Pubul57

04-13-10   Pubul57, i'd rather go offline with that to avoid taking the ...   Audiokinesis

04-13-10   Makes sense. we'll talk.   Pubul57

04-13-10   Kirkus, shadorne, and unsound, i really appreciate your inpu ...   Atmasphere

04-13-10   Atmasphere and duke too, i think it's us (well at least i ca ...   Unsound

04-13-10   on the power rules front i think that provided a speaker is ...   Shadorne

04-13-10   A bit off topic here, but, if a speaker manufacturer needs t ...   Unsound

04-13-10   you mean like infinity or a totem mani 2 or a mbl ...well i ...   Shadorne

04-14-10   Are "poorly" designed speakers by your definition, ...   Pubul57

04-14-10   Unsound, i think the 'harm' comes in when the speaker requir ...   Atmasphere

04-14-10   It seems there is no single model or paradigm that can accou ...   Mapman

04-14-10   ah, unsound . . . this is the crux of the matter. atmaspher ...   Kirkus

04-14-10   atmasphere, i'm not sure that many speakers actually necess ...   Unsound

04-14-10   Two different recipes that both can produce some very good s ...   Mapman

04-14-10   In the last 20 years the use of sets has really increased a ...   Atmasphere

04-14-10   Atmasphere, i wasn't talking about those kind of speakers. i ...   Unsound

04-14-10   If i may steer this thread a bit back to the original questi ...   Kirkus

04-15-10   Kirkus, thanks! your explanation of longer duration of headr ...   Unsound

04-16-10   Kirkus, "the particular set of energy-storage dynamics ...   Trelja

04-16-10   Do tubes have the same "advantage" in preamplifier ...   Pubul57

04-16-10   "do tubes have the same "advantage" in preamp ...   Mapman

04-16-10   I think they do. it would be really tricky to build a zero-f ...   Atmasphere

04-16-10   There are many here much more qualified than i am to answer ...   Unsound

04-16-10   Trelja, thanks for the kind words. unsound, are you referri ...   Kirkus

04-16-10   no. tube preamp stages almost universally operate in class ...   Kirkus

04-17-10   @ralph: found you comment about the mbl101e's interesting. ...   Myles_b_astor

04-19-10   Myles, the mbl has an impedance peak of about 8-9 ohms in th ...   Atmasphere

04-22-10   What a incredible collection of very high-tech posts! you gu ...   Emorrisiv

04-22-10   Always thought the acoustats were designed around the " ...   Pubul57

04-22-10   I have heard them with tubes and they make magic.ss is surel ...   Emorrisiv

04-22-10   Emorrisiv, i've heard the acoustats sound great with a set o ...   Atmasphere

04-23-10   Of course acoustat made ss amps to go with their speakers.   Unsound

04-23-10   Yes, just as they also made a dedicated tube otl-powered spe ...   Atmasphere

04-23-10   Yes, there were older acoustats with dedicated otl's, but th ...   Unsound

04-23-10   No doubt the m60s are quality watts:)   Pubul57

05-03-10: Emorrisiv
no doubt at all
Emorrisiv  (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)


05-15-10   If you have any doubt, then look at what hp has to say about ...   Angela100

05-22-10   Angela, i have stopped all my subscriptions because of the w ...   Emorrisiv


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