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  DarTZeel Preamp
Does anyone have experience with the new DarTZeel NHB 18NS Preamplifier? A few 'Goners have commented on hearing the unit at 2005 CES, but I was wondering in particular if anyone has purchased one, or heard one in a familiar system or at a dealer for instance. Thanks.
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10-14-05
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10-17-05   Back to the original points… i wrote the 6moons review, and ...   Mmalin

10-17-05   This is what i love about this hobby--one man's passion is a ...   Oneobgyn

10-17-05   Thanks mmalim for getting the thread back to where it belong ...   Henryhk

10-17-05   By the way guys...i posted a related question on the review ...   Henryhk

10-17-05   Thank you, mmalin. please let us know the approximate date ...   Sjmgr

10-18-05   Jtinn: you say to fmpnd “you are making this personal and se ...   imisutar@

10-18-05   I keep coming to this thread hoping to read some valuable in ...   Jafox

10-18-05   Jafox, i hate to see you wallow in a state of contentedness ...   Fmpnd

10-18-05   What concerns me about this thread more than anything else i ...   Oneobgyn

10-18-05   Imisutar@sutarcom.ir: i understand why you feel the way you ...   Jtinn

10-18-05   The products that jtinn represents always seem to provoke so ...   Rgcards

10-18-05   Sjmgr asks “please let us know the approximate date for your ...   Mmalin

10-18-05   Oneobgyn: i appreciate that you are somewhat in the middle o ...   Jtinn

10-18-05   Oneobgyn: to say that i "continually" make commen ...   Hooper

10-18-05   Ob, the manual was written for the original version of the a ...   Mikelavigne

10-19-05   Gentlemen i don't know what to believe any more mike i am ...   Oneobgyn

10-18-05   Just when it appears mr. tinn that your posts cannot get any ...   Fmpnd

10-19-05   "in addition, ask yourself who has been unprofessional, ...   Fiddler

10-19-05   Pointing out a paragraph in an owners manual as proof that t ...   Agisthos

10-19-05   Frank: just to clarify: my "utterly ridiculous" c ...   Hooper

10-19-05: Fmpnd
Hooper, I have one problem with your post. Try to let go of your allegiance to Tinn and take an unbiased look at my posts. NEVER have I said YOU caused it to get ugly. In fact I said JUST the opposite - that you and I were civil and had resolved the issue before Tinn got ugly.

Next, NEVER have I said anything ugly about DartZeel or you. You are implying here that I AM causing your remarks to be repeated over and over. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT? If Tinn would simply admit (like you did about your original post, and like Mike does he says he does NOT agree with Tinn's characterization of Jeff and Marc and their motives) that he wrongly bashed and unprofessionally maligned a reviewer and his review THAT WAS NOT NEGATIVE, then this WHOLE thing would have ended. If Tinn keeps throwing out insults and refusing to be accountable for his written word and his slanderous comments and he keeps posting claiming that I HIJACKED this thread, then I have no choice but to defend myself by simply listing the FACTS AGAIN in hopes that objective minds will see that Jeff didn't do what he accuses him of, why Tinn bashed him and Soundstage and who OBVIOUSLY hijacked this thread.

It's funny how JTinn maligns me and my job by smugly asking don't I have anything better to do. Yet another double standard by Mr. Tinn!!! Then, how is it that Mike LaVigne isn't guilty of the same thing when posting his long posts? Mike, as a general manager of an Auto Dealership is even busier than I am. Also, why is Mike posting here at all? Because JTinn is his friend and he is trying to come to his aid - WELL THAT IS ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WHEN MY COLLEAGUE WAS SO UNJUSTLY ACCUSED OF BEING A LIAR, BEING SLIMY AND BEING UNPROFESSIONAL! JTinn has made MANY defamatory and unsupported allegations and comments about Jeff in this thread. I have NOT done anything but point out Mr. Tinn's fallacious logic using his own words - something he obviously has no tolerance for as evidenced by his refusal to either admit (i) that he was wrong; or (ii) that you and Mike are also biased an non-credible for the same reasons he used to judge Marc and Jeff. He simply will not be accountable for those statements and his double standard attacks.

So, AGAIN, who could have NOT started this ugliness in the first place - Mr. Tinn. Similarly, who could have ended it with class and integrity by being a man and admitting his mistake? Tinn. Who continues to hurl insults and personal attacks instead of addressing his own words? Tinn.

Do the math Andrew. If you can be a man and admit a mistake, if Mike can admit that Tinn was wrong in his characterization of Jeff and Marc and their motives - ask yourself who is the ONLY person who cannot do the same thing? Ask yourself who is REALLY causing this thing to drag on? Ask yourself who REALLY hijacked this thread! I think you know the answer as does anyone who objectively reads this thread.

So, if there are no more insults or attacks leveled by Tinn and his group, there will be no more responses.

PS - the reason that JTinn and Mike have stated that some of their posts have not been allowed should be illustrative. The reason all my posts are getting through is that I am sticking to a debate of the FACTS and the words used on the thread. If JTinn's post calling Jeff "slimy" and "an out and out liar" made it through, can you IMAGINE how vituperative and venemous or unrelated to the issue at hand those posts must have been for Audiogon to prohibit them?

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10-19-05   After reading about the dartzeel amp here and in various pub ...   jakesommers@

10-19-05   Andy, i am sorry if this upsets you, but can you understand ...   Fmpnd

10-19-05   Apart from finding this very amusing reading i will have to ...   Downunder

10-19-05   Frank peraino: you say facts. the facts are: 1. jeff fritz ...   Jtinn

10-19-05   Fmpnd: i just realized that most of the people here that are ...   Jtinn

10-19-05   Just fyi, i had a looong reply planned for frank, but as the ...   Hooper

10-19-05   Thank you again, mmalin. at this point, could we all go bac ...   Sjmgr

10-19-05   Jakesommers@netscape.net i would have no reservations about ...   082288

10-20-05   Gentlemen, just reading this thread can make you physically ...   Azjake

10-20-05   With the recent press about the dartzeel products, i was goi ...   Krjr

10-20-05   "fmpnd: i just realized that most of the people here th ...   Fiddler

10-20-05   Right on, hooper! i do hope other issues in this thread cou ...   Sjmgr

10-20-05   All, i have been watching tv for the last 4 days. this threa ...   Mikelavigne

10-20-05   Mikelavigne, in your post regarding the sonics of the new da ...   Teajay

10-20-05   Fiddler: if you re-read my post, i was talking about those w ...   Jtinn

10-20-05   ***fmpnd: i just realized that most of the people here that ...   Kevinkwann

10-21-05   Regarding the greed or mark up on pricing, and whether its d ...   Henryhk

10-21-05   Kevinkwan: since you do not know me either and want to make ...   Jtinn

10-21-05   Henryhk, i'm afraid you are right. still waiting for an aud ...   Edzard

10-22-05   I do not often participate but feel compelled to do so now t ...   Bkonig

10-22-05   Although as i stated previously, i am done with my involveme ...   Fmpnd

10-22-05   "3. i am a customer of jtinn. that is because he is the ...   Fsarc

10-23-05   "2. people in general may have their own agendas. it is ...   Oneobgyn

10-23-05   Ob, you have asked me a question 2 different times and for v ...   Mikelavigne

10-23-05   Oneobgyn: in reference to your first point, i do not know w ...   Bkonig

10-23-05   Mike - what a great description here. i have read similar a ...   Jafox

10-23-05   Some components reveal their true character right out of the ...   Oneobgyn

10-23-05   Mike- have you been using the preamp in battery mode? i know ...   Fsarc

10-24-05   Ob, i was not referring to the ml2.1's with my reference to ...   Mikelavigne


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