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  What's Your Experience with Digital Switching Amp?
The ICE class-D amplifier modules (with self-oscillating transistors) have started a new generation of digital switching amps (DSAs for short) for people interested in high-quality sound at affordable price. If you own one of these amps, I am very curious about how it performs in your home, how it compares to other solid-state and tube amps, and especially how it compares to other switching amps that are starting to appear out there. To start things off, I will go first with you my own—very positive—experience with the Velluto DSA (Analog Research-Technology; 500 wpc; $2800). I’d love to hear your experience with your own DSA in return.

A LITTLE BACKGROUND

I am not an electrical engineer so I hope you will forgive my errors in summarizing the inherent problems with the ICE modules. Out of the box, the frequency response of the ICE module is far from flat. Class-D modules are also very susceptible to RF that can make them sound awful. The ICE modules, like all class-D modules, emit EMI that can create havoc with the sound as well. Like many solid-state (ss) amplifiers, most DSAs have relatively low input impedance that makes them difficult to be driven by a tube preamp. How designers solved these problems affects the amp’s performance.

After a long search—there are quite a few suspicious DSAs in generic boxes out there!—I settled on the Velluto Digital Switching Amp from Analog Reseach-Technology, a firm located here in Dallas, for several reasons: 1) Living in Dallas, I can audition it exhaustively before purchasing; 2) I like previous products by Pat Digiacomo, the engineer who designs and builds these amps in-house with eyes toward great sound at a reasonable cost; 3) Unlike many DSAs that use off–the-shelf chassis and generic front panel, the Velluto comes in a custom chassis with a massive front panel finished in attractive brushed silver. I will skip the description of the amp’s looks, features, and circuitry—I can tell you about them later if you are interested—and go directly to the most important thing about this DSA: its sounds.

THE SOUND OF MY VELLUTO DIGITAL SWITCHING AMP

I have listened to the Analog Research Velluto for a few months now and the sound of this amp is quite unlike that of any other amp that I’ve ever owned, solid-state or tube. The Velluto’s sound is wonderful: silky, dynamic, and expansive. As I just recently RE-discovered Audiogon and read interesting threads about the H2O amps, which I believe uses the same ICE modules as the Velluto, I realize that I am not alone in my enthusiasm for the sound of a DSA. One thing I noticed immediately about the Velluto’s sound was the bass: tight, deep, dynamic, and abundant! Compared to the Velluto, my Rowland Model 7 monoblocks sounded anemic in the bass, which is hard to believe with 300 wpc of class AB power. The bass on my BAT VK-60 monoblocks was as dynamic as the Velluto’s, but with clearly less depth, tightness, and volume. Another thing that captivates me is the Velluto’s midrange. It is very smooth, but not liquid like my BAT’s midrange or neutral like my Rowland’s, or analytical like many SS amps I dislike. Rather, it is silky smooth. I have never heard such midrange before from any amp, tube or solid-state. It is quite an alluring sound, worthy of the amp’s name— I think Velluto means velvety in Italian. The highs are extended and detailed—that was expected from a frequency response that’s down less than 0.3dB at 20 KHz—but surprisingly without the dryness, or edginess of many ss amps.

But the one thing I love most about this amp is its soundstage: it is positively gargantuan. It extends so deep and so wide beyond the speakers that you feel like the walls of your room have dematerialized. The sound just seems to expand for ever beyond the speakers to fade away at a far distance. It is quite an uncanny effect. By comparison, the sound of my BATs is more intimate but bunched up in the middle with far less information around. It becomes obvious that the BATs, like many tube amps, is missing quite a bit of high-frequency information which, by subtraction, gives the illusion of a very focused and dynamic midrange. I now much prefer the panoramic sound of the Velluto, especially for orchestral music though the BATs still have their moment with intimate music.

THE FUTURE OF DIGITAL SWITCHING AMPS IN HIGH-END AUDIO

Without trying to be controversial, I feel that many manufacturers with great reputation based their own successful designs will not readily adopt these ICE modules in their new amps. The poor sound of traditional class-D amps will not help promote these new DSAs either. On the other hand, some well-known high-end manufacturers like Jeff Rowland have already started to offer many models based on the ICE modules. When designed right, these new DSAs can remove many limitations of older ss designs: excessive heat, large heatsink fins, cumbersome size, heavy chassis that strain backs and cost a fortune to ship, insufficient power and bass, analytical sound, edgy highs, or constricted soundstage. This is assuming that all the kinks in the DSAs are worked out properly. For example, these amps may have to be rolled off (!) a little more for tube lovers who just can’t get used to the additional information in the highs and the panoramic soundstage—I’m not one of them but some of my friends are. You also have to be extremely mindful of nasty RF and EMI gremlins still sneaking into the sound. The Velluto overcomes these hurdles successfully but I doubt that all DSAs out there have identical sounds.

I am keenly interested in hearing the impressions of other (I hope very happy) owners of DSA amps.

Justin_Time


My Audio System:

Speakers: Watts/Puppies 5
Amps (Balanced): Rowland Model 7s, BAT VK-60s
Preamps (Balanced); BAT VK5, Rowland Consumate w/ phono stage
Analog source (Balanced): SOTA Cosmos, Graham 2.2, Sumiko Geneis, Benz, Koetsu
Digital source: Sony DVP 9000ES (for SACD only)
Power cords: TaraLabs Prism AC Special and RSC; homemade hospital-grade PC
Speaker cables: OCOS Triple runs, MIT CVT, Straightwire Maestro
Interconnects: Onix GMR XLR, homemade XLR (Nutric connectors/microphone cables)
Miscellaneous cables: Audioquest phono cable; TaraLabs digital cable/special termination
Justin_time  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)

06-16-05
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06-16-05   I have a number of acoustic reality amplifiers,they are abso ...   Ramy

06-16-05   I have the bel canto evo 4 amp, which is also a dsa, but bas ...   Elberoth2

06-16-05   I really enjoyed my spectron 1, driving a pair of maggie 1.6 ...   Fatparrot

06-16-05   Quote: "i really enjoyed my spectron 1, driving a pair ...   Justin_time

06-16-05   Quote: "i have the bel canto evo 4 amp, which is also ...   Justin_time

06-16-05   Hey justin time, i like the name. i was an early convert to ...   Muralman1

06-16-05   Justin time, though your bat does not have a cathode followe ...   Viridian

06-16-05   Quote: "hey justin time, i like the name. i was an earl ...   Justin_time

06-16-05   I enjoyed my bel canto tripath amp very much. but i like my ...   Danlib1

06-16-05   The h2o sig monos have been reviewed by 6moons http://www.6 ...   Muralman1

06-16-05   Hey muralman1, gee, i wished you hadn't said anything about ...   Justin_time

06-16-05   Ooooooops..... i meant mid ;) marinko plugs can be found at ...   Muralman1

06-16-05   I'm in the process of audtioning the following dsas: jjaz i ...   Wrp

06-16-05   I have one of the original dsa designs from the now defunct ...   Fedreams

06-16-05   Hello fedreams, i believe that it's the way of using the ic ...   Justin_time

06-16-05   Quote: "06-16-05: wrp i'm in the process of audtioning ...   Justin_time

06-17-05   "now, here is a tip for you, justin time. ditch the mit ...   Kana813

06-17-05   As an aside- i too love the speltz anti-cable. replace my a ...   Danlib1

06-17-05   Kana, do i sense an edge to your post? i think danlib 1's an ...   Muralman1

06-17-05   I thought dan's question was valid, muralman1. there's a f ...   Tvad

06-17-05   How much is the velluto? tracer   Tracer

06-17-05   I think this thread has contributions from more than one sal ...   Stubby

06-17-05   I'm very pleased with the improvement the h2o signature s250 ...   Jman66

06-17-05   Tvad, i appreciate the criticism. i am the most vocal suppor ...   Muralman1

06-17-05: Tvad
I am the most vocal supporter of the H2O. Im sure being a good friend of the H2O builder has something to do with my overenthusiasm.
Understandable.

Hype (or hyperbole) means extravagant exaggeration according to my Webster's. I don't think dishonesty is inferred at all. Nor, do I think you've been dishonest.

A bit hyperbolic, perhaps. :)


Tvad  (Threads | Answers | This Thread)


06-17-05   Response to tracer: "how much is the velluto?" th ...   Justin_time

06-17-05   Hi justin_time, i sent an e-mail to analog research several ...   Grk

06-17-05   Hi justin_time, i went back to some of the discussions thre ...   Grk

06-17-05   The recurring issue of "ditch the mit" in these ic ...   Jafox

06-17-05   Tvad- mahalo for explaining "hype" to muralman1. ...   Kana813

06-17-05   Jfox, this is a thread topic that covers the new breed of am ...   Muralman1

06-17-05   Kana, i made that statement based on conversations with henr ...   Muralman1

06-17-05   I've used mit 750 shotgun speaker cable and interconnects wi ...   Mr_bill

06-17-05   I assume problem with mit and icepower is that the network c ...   Mrcaspence1

06-17-05   Well........since i am being talked about, maybe i should cl ...   Ar_t

06-17-05   Quote: "i ... noticed pat's phone number was listed...& ...   Justin_time

06-17-05   Guys -- what about the red dragon ice based amp? "int ...   Denf

06-17-05   Mr_bill: your response, "maybe some perceive added dept ...   Jafox

06-17-05   I experienced what i'd have to say the same thing (ascribed ...   Woodburger

06-17-05   Jafox - amen   Muralman1

06-18-05   "kana, i made that statement based on conversations wit ...   Kana813

06-18-05   Thanks justin for the kind words. since the thread is not in ...   Ar_t

06-17-05   Jafox, my comment wasn't directed at you, it was just a comm ...   Mr_bill

06-18-05   Kana - what's your contribution to this thread, other than b ...   Jman66

06-18-05   I think we should appreciate the different thoughts and opin ...   Mr_bill

06-19-05   Mr_bill, you have commented on your evo amp, and i have made ...   Muralman1

06-19-05   Yep, i'm with you vince - agreed.   Mr_bill

06-20-05   Owners of bel canto, h2o, jjaz and other switching amps, do ...   Justin_time

06-20-05   My experience hearing ci audio d100 and nuforce reference 8 ...   Tvad

06-20-05   I have listened extensively to the ear, tact (heavily modifi ...   Muralman1

06-20-05   Really???? having built "conventional" amps for y ...   Ar_t

06-20-05   I'm not saying there are no differences between solid states ...   Muralman1

06-20-05   I have listened extensively to the ear, tact (heavily modifi ...   Kana813

06-20-05   Tell me, kana, how much would it cost to full modify a tact ...   Muralman1

06-21-05   Muralman1- you didn't answer my question, but it's obvious y ...   Kana813

06-21-05   $100? that's not i was told. i think a multiple array of bla ...   Muralman1

06-21-05   Muralman1- yes, a multiple array of high voltage black gates ...   Kana813


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