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02-16-05
Probably pretty good. Magnepanmike
02-16-05
Gregm, the device under discussion is the ref 3 (mark 1). ... Guidocorona
02-16-05
Soundoc, are you saying that the ref 3 has some of the razo ... Guidocorona
02-16-05
I had the opportunity to listen to a friend's arc ref 1 prea ... Bombaywalla
02-17-05
Audio research has finally added a ref 3 page to its site. ... Guidocorona
02-23-05
For those with ref 2 mk ii's who aren't quite ready to trade ... Klinerm
02-24-05
Dear bobaywalla, it mistifies me that you would blame the a ... Norfish
02-24-05
Dear randy, i think that i can understand where you are com ... Bombaywalla
02-25-05
riiiight. i believe this error in inductive reasoning is k ... Rex
02-26-05
Bombaywalla: i think your flawed logic shows quite a bit of ... Gmorris
02-27-05
Bombaywalla, hopefully you will get a chance to hear some o ... Jafox
02-27-05
Ok guys: you bring up some valid arguments! jafox: i'm 100 ... Bombaywalla
06-28-05
Any updated findings on arc ref 3? in particular, marcelo, ... guidoc@
08-17-05
All, just yesterday i spent three hours comparing the arc r ... Guidocorona
08-19-05: Marcelo_cinicola
Hi all, Hi Guido! I missed this post, sorry!
Well, I've lived with the REF3 now for a while, and can only confirm what I initially sensed, it is a great linestage, detailed, open and rich.
If I were to find a weak point, it would only be the input gain (yes, I know I mentioned it before, but it didnīt stopped bugging me). This is not related to its performance though, more likely to my own tastes as user. I donīt like to increase the volume well above 50 to have some significant SPL out of the Martin Logans. So, I decided that I needed to use high output phono preamp and also add a high output DAC in between my CDP and the Ref3. Well, I bought a phono pre with enough output to drive the power amps (Aesthetix Rhea) if it only had volume control.
Gain is an incredible 75 dbs!
And, for the CDP I bought at first a Krell Stealth DAC, but this one didnīt really had the fire, so today arrived a Theta Probasic IIIa that a fellow Aīgoner sold to me last sunday and it did the trick. Now I really feel like the Ref3 sings!
What else can I say? That I think it will be hard for me to get a better rig for my system. Iīm really really pleased with it.
brgds, Marcelo
Marcelo_cinicola (Threads | Answers | This Thread)
08-19-05
Marcelo, 'bingo' on all counts! detailed, open and certain ... Guidocorona
08-19-05
Guido, i have not heard about the xchange tubes! whatīs all ... Marcelo_cinicola
08-19-05
Marcelo, this is apparently a change done on all new ref 3 ... Guidocorona
08-20-05
Has oneobgin confirmed that this is factory made? i checked ... Marcelo_cinicola
08-20-05
Marcelo, i reread oneobgin's posts starting at: http://foru ... Guidocorona
08-20-05
Well i was wrong again. the tubes being swapped out are the ... Guidocorona
08-21-05
I called arc and asked if there was a upgrade for my ref 3 a ... Agaffer
08-21-05
Well, this gets curiouser and curiouser! the toronto dealer ... Guidocorona
08-22-05
Ok, i talked to arc just now. all is clear to me and confirm ... Marcelo_cinicola
08-22-05
Btw, the right tube to use, according to arc itself, is the ... Marcelo_cinicola
08-22-05
Ok, tube swapping: the one 6l6gc is swapped in favour of a ... Soundoc
08-22-05
Hi doc! yes, you can go back to the 6l6gc even after instal ... Marcelo_cinicola
08-22-05
I just love it. arc has modified its semantics and is now do ... Rgurney
08-22-05
I bet there are more "rolling updates" with other ... Magnepanmike
08-22-05
Hmm, terrible sin indeed this rolling update. $60 of parts ... Guidocorona
08-24-05
In a more serious mode, what is the length of the ref 3 sto ... Guidocorona
09-16-05
I am waiting for the bypass caps to arrive to have them inst ... Agaffer
09-17-05
Agaffer, what difference did you perceive in your amps repl ... Guidocorona
09-17-05
I am using the vtm 200 monblocks, which replaced a theta dre ... Agaffer
09-17-05
Thank you agaffer, keep us posted. Guidocorona
09-18-05
Last night i sat down for a couple of hours of listening. th ... Agaffer
09-18-05
Ok agaffer, but how did the sound differ from that of the s ... Guidocorona
09-19-05
It didn't sound any different, at least not that i noticed. Agaffer
10-02-05
Interesting thread and how misquoted i was. all along i told ... Oneobgyn
10-03-05
I finally put in a 6550c from arc to compare it with the 6l6 ... Agaffer
10-03-05
I think that the 6550c is not a drop in replacement for the ... Gmorris
10-03-05
That's very surprising. although i didn't like the svetlana ... Ethannnn
10-03-05
I completely agree. i am not a big fan of the 6550c either. ... Oneobgyn
10-04-05
Oneobgyn, did you try the tube swap before changing the bypa ... Agaffer
10-04-05
No....i took my unit to an authorized arc repair man here in ... Oneobgyn
02-20-06
Hi all, sorry to bring back this old thread, but any one ... Jhc
02-20-06
I have now a ref 3 that has just passed the 200 hrs break in ... Guidocorona
02-20-06
guido imo there is absolutely no reason to do any tube rol ... Oneobgyn
02-20-06
Wow, i came back to this thread to learn more of guido's pro ... Jafox
02-20-06
Jafox, amazingly enough, i have been pretty good on this t ... Guidocorona
02-20-06
This is where i am as of last night - http://img295.imagesh ... Jhc
03-21-07
Hi i have been reading your e-mail back and forth, i own a r ... Goofy
03-22-07
Only the very earliest ref 3's did not have bypass caps and ... Oneobgyn
03-23-07
I humbly disagree with oneobgyn regarding tube rolling with ... Arahl
03-25-07
this is what makes this hobby so much fun. one mans passion ... Oneobgyn
11-10-07
I have a ref3 available for sale. it's basically brand new. ... Boarder27
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